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    <title>topic Is this the end in Stadia General</title>
    <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52523#M22514</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;With today's announcement is this the start of a slow death?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://blog.google/products/stadia/focusing-on-stadias-future-as-a-platform-and-winding-down-sge/" target="_blank"&gt;https://blog.google/products/stadia/focusing-on-stadias-future-as-a-platform-and-winding-down-sge/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 19:54:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Numinusichka</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-02-01T19:54:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52523#M22514</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;With today's announcement is this the start of a slow death?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://blog.google/products/stadia/focusing-on-stadias-future-as-a-platform-and-winding-down-sge/" target="_blank"&gt;https://blog.google/products/stadia/focusing-on-stadias-future-as-a-platform-and-winding-down-sge/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 19:54:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52523#M22514</guid>
      <dc:creator>Numinusichka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T19:54:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52527#M22515</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I believe that, despite everything that can be said about this whole announcement, yes, this is the beginning of the end.&lt;BR /&gt;I am saying this as a Founder that has invested 500€ for hardware and software in this &lt;EM&gt;project&lt;/EM&gt; (because, c'mon, for how this has been managed it was clear that it has been a project all along).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have loved so many things about Stadia, too bad it is now clear that I was most likely one of the very few ones.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, this is the beginning of the end, because this is how Google has always treated dying products: they progressively shut down services to postpone the inevitable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Look at Google Latitude and how they incorporated it in Google Plus before closing it.&lt;BR /&gt;Look at Google Plus and how they separated it from Google Photos before closing it.&lt;BR /&gt;Look at how they implemented VR in Google ARCore before destroying Google Cardboard.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have already seen this film. Yes, I will stay with Google. Yes, I'll stay subscribed to Stadia Pro (never skipped a month, actually), because I still enjoy the service. But now we can finally talk about WHEN Stadia will shut down. The "IF" question has been answered today.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:17:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52527#M22515</guid>
      <dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T20:17:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52529#M22517</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I surely hope not. I truly love the Stadia service. But if it comes to that, then there is nothing we can do. I have been supportive since day one, and will continue to support it. My question is what happens to all of my purchases if Google Stadia does end up shutting down.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:16:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52529#M22517</guid>
      <dc:creator>BigPete7978</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T20:16:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52532#M22518</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It certainly is not good news.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:22:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52532#M22518</guid>
      <dc:creator>Moka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T20:22:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52536#M22521</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The way I interpret it, Google have realised that it will take a huge amount of time and investment to deliver high quality exclusive games....so are focussing on the hardware aspect they already have a huge head start on. I think overall it’ll be positive for us.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I guess the real proof will be whether big name games still come to the platform and whether the player base continues to grow...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:33:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52536#M22521</guid>
      <dc:creator>Matt1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T20:33:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52537#M22522</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It doesn;t surprise me they're shutting down the games division, must be difficult to see return of investment in games that are mostly not sold, and the appeal to the general public is almost non existant, despite them being nice games. Reputation takes long to build and the gaming industry is saturated. That being said, I think Stadia as a platform has a brilliant future and Google is just ahead in the game, although the catalog needs to grow. Only time will tell but I think Stadia business model is an all-win for Google, you buy game after game, but you only use their infrastructure with the game you're playing. I don't see how they're not making money, plus more to come as they grow and people get a taste.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:39:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>retrovic</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T20:39:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52538#M22523</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;however, they should be more open to users. I started my experience with Cyberpunk, now i have bought some games and i really enjoy it.&lt;BR /&gt;But, i think Stadia has many flaws which can be easily solved. And the biggest one is the lack of transparency and uncertainty.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:40:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52538#M22523</guid>
      <dc:creator>EvilTheViolator</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T20:40:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52542#M22526</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I definately don't think this is the end. Making your own games is costly and the money saved can be put to use on bringing more titles to the platform and maybe a AAA exclusive here and there.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Overall this will make the platform stronger.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:45:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52542#M22526</guid>
      <dc:creator>Moosemaninc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T20:45:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52547#M22530</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Hey there everyone, I wanted to chime in with the response I posted to my post on Stadia's subreddit:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;"Hi everyone, I completely understand your emotions surrounding the news, so I wanted to chime in with a couple more thoughts. Please note that Stadia.com, Stadia Pro, and your games aren’t going anywhere. In fact, we’ll keep bringing more games to the platform and Stadia Pro. We had an exciting launch with Cyberpunk 2077 back in December, and the Stadia team is dedicated to bringing even more titles to the platform this year."&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:51:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52547#M22530</guid>
      <dc:creator>GraceFromGoogle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T20:51:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52551#M22532</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;...Google, I know you all knew this was going to be poorly received, but I don't know if you knew how poorly. To have this news hit after a couple months of the only good press Stadia ever got is really, really not great. The promise of Stadia was games that could only happen in the cloud, not just everybody else's games running (at best) as good as or slightly worse than on the competition.&amp;nbsp;And a year in, you're shutting down the only source those magic experiences were going to come from. No 3rd party is going to make a Stadia exclusive game that needs their distributed computing to function when Google themselves won't do it even after building two studios with that purpose. We might get more neat side features like the picture-in-picture stuff, but I expect that's gonna be it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is a reasonable thing to be disappointed about. It's a huge (speculative, but the speculation came &lt;STRONG&gt;from Google&lt;/STRONG&gt;) promised upside to the platform that is no longer going to happen. As a founder I have plenty of stuff I'm still actively playing and enjoying on the platform, I'm not goin' anywhere, but it's hard to see how this doesn't trigger a massive wave of "told you so" negative press and make user retention a nightmare.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Everything Google has said publicly for the last year, in the very rare instances they've chosen to say anything outside a blog post at all, has been 100% committed to the message of long term, confident investment in this platform. And a lot of us bought that, because, you know, you're Google. You have the money. You did the R&amp;amp;D. You hired Jade Raymond.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think you just shot a lot of that credibility right in the knees, folks. &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.stadia.com/html/@E897B4AEC6A9BA0BAA5F0D6F168991A3/emoticons/1f615.png" alt=":confused_face:" title=":confused_face:" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All that said, Grace, thank you for your tireless commitment to this community. I'm sure it absolutely sucks having to handle this news.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:58:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52551#M22532</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ravenlock</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T20:58:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52554#M22534</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;U&gt;Hi Grace, I never placed your comment as best response. How did it become best response?&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 21:01:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52554#M22534</guid>
      <dc:creator>Numinusichka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T21:01:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52557#M22535</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.stadia.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/6"&gt;@GraceFromGoogle&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;This is still immensely disappointing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The cloud native games and unique features were the biggest selling point of the service. Like others have stated, this was a clear and obvious statement that Google is no longer committed to making Stadia a success.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We as users didn't want exclusives for the sake of exclusives, we wanted exclusive games because the experiences weren't technically possible on other platforms, or at least were harder on other platforms.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;There &lt;STRONG&gt;needs to be a LOT more transparency here&lt;/STRONG&gt; because you just told all of the publishers and game developers - you don't think you can make a profit on your own platform.&amp;nbsp; How can you keep bringing games in a profitable manner if it seems like the service is going down the tubes.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you can't make a profit on your platform, why would a publisher want to partner to say run a white-labeled version of Stadia?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;This is what we want to hear to honestly salvage this I realize you may not be able to answer everything or even everything all at once, but it would be really&amp;nbsp;really valuable to get even piecemeal information on this.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Will you be investing in cloud native games still - but through third parties?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Will you continue to focus on making Stadia as a platform - it's web app, it's mobile app, it's chromecast experience better and unique?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Will you continue to be investing in creating unique integrations and features like crowd choice, crowd play, state share, stream connect etc?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The game designers and developers that were at Stadia Games and Entertainment, can you offer clarity, are they moving into a role where they are going to be helping onboard games from other publishers?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;(obviously meaning in a general majority sense. Obviously individual folks may be moving to different types of roles)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Was there pressure from other publishers that they didn't want to be on the platform if you had your own publisher was that part of the reason?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Is this first party publishing thing possibly only a short term strategy change, and may get revisited later?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 21:42:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TheWebTech</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T21:42:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52570#M22541</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;if stadia shut down permanently what happens to our games?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 21:53:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>gspec</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T21:53:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52571#M22542</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If they want this to suceed they should treat it more like steam and stop forcing stadia specific sports, must kill any enthusiam for devs knowing they need to make a stadia version too unless google are paying vast amounts since actual sales will be very low.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Be a platform google, not a console thats how this will work&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 21:55:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>User5060</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T21:55:27Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52572#M22543</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's more than disappointing, it's the death of Stadia unless they release gen 2 NOW so we can play the games in way superior version than the competition.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's pointless to play here with no exclusives and not the best version of games.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 21:56:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Nilas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T21:56:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is this the end</title>
      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52573#M22544</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;They've promised that in the event that ever happens, users won't lose their paid for games, but they haven't been specific about how they'd cover that promise.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That said, I don't think that's a realistic short-term concern. This news doesn't make me think the stuff about their content roadmap for the next couple of years with third parties hasn't been true. It just means that's gonna have to be enough, and &amp;lt;shrug&amp;gt; I mean, we'll see.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 21:59:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ravenlock</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T21:59:03Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Is-this-the-end/m-p/52585#M22548</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is definitely not a good look for stadia. Everyone is expecting Stadia to be cut which is dissuading gamers from investing time in it for fear Google isn't fully invested in it itself.&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;This is a VERY strong signal Google doesn't believe in it as a platform itself. How can it expect other studios to if it isn't willing to invest itself.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; Right now all my friends and people across the internet are saying "I told you so".&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Even worse the language is no different than the language used before Google cut other products and services.&amp;nbsp; I still have an email where Google support stated they had no intention of shuttering Google Play Music with the launch of YouTube music and they were committed to its service. This is not good PR&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I blame the CFO the mandate that all alphabet subsidiaries most show profitability has turned Google's longer-term thinking and engineering to short term thinking.&amp;nbsp; You're seeing this across the board since ~2015 when the new CFO took the helm. You're seeing a lot of braindrain too from innovators that found a home at Google now leaving.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 22:54:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jamesy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T22:54:00Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's hard not to believe this is the beginning of the end....if today's announcement would have been followed up with positivity....like "....and to prove were committed to partnerships, Capcom will be bringing Resident Evil 8 this May to Stadia...." This would have softened the terrible news and given us a glimmer of hope.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Hard to not be 100% doom and gloom on this.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 23:23:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Flick</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T23:23:13Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;lt;shrug&amp;gt; Deals are ready to announce when they're ready to announce. I don't think this means more than what it means, but I do think what it means is a pretty big blow to the unique potential of the platform as Google pitched it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 23:49:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ravenlock</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-01T23:49:37Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think they may have intentionally separated this announcement from a positive announcement. Even if they announced " hey Stadia Now has the latest Nintendo games" it would have soured the message and Nintendo would have gotten flack.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I think they're just trying to control the narrative a little. I would hope there's another announcement coming. We still don't know what hailstorm is.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2021 00:35:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TheWebTech</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-02T00:35:55Z</dc:date>
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