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@xgudwilx Don't have a console to compare it to anymore but I have compared FFXV on Stadia vs FFXV on PC. They look and play mostly identical. On the PC I can crank the settings all the way up for som... See more...
@xgudwilx Don't have a console to compare it to anymore but I have compared FFXV on Stadia vs FFXV on PC. They look and play mostly identical. On the PC I can crank the settings all the way up for some minor "improvements" on graphics but it drops me to about 30fps, playable but not great. I think some things in the game actually look worse (less realistic?) at the highest settings but that's just my opinion. As far as the upscaling to 4k that people complain about, it is actually a benefit of the platform. First and foremost, the upscaling is handled on their servers which means your TV (assuming 4k) doesn't need to upscale the image which would introduce additional latency. That ensures that regardless of what resolution the game is running at the experience remains as consistent as possible. Second, the differences are extremely subtle, people are exaggerating the issue, and blaming other things on it that aren't attributable to it. Lots of pixels in the image is because the game is being rendered at a lower resolution than your screen. Loss of detail is because of the compression that occurs when streamed. Most people are complaining about loss of detail but then blaming it on 4k upscaling... which is just wrong. I played the Project Stream beta and I thought it looked good then but they have vastly improved the compression technology over the last year. Give Google another year or two and I don't think we'll be able to see the very subtle differences anymore. Give the the game developers a bit more time to learn and optimize the games for the platform and we'll see more games that meet the 4k 60fps goal. Long story short, it plays great and looks great for me right now. Yes, there are some differences between local hardware but I am honestly more excited about what it'll be able to do in the future vs what it can do right now.
@Valynor ah yes I see the sarcasm now, lol
@Valynor So because some people can't use it, no body should be able to and it should never have been built? By that logic our world would be a very dull place. Also many countries that have better... See more...
@Valynor So because some people can't use it, no body should be able to and it should never have been built? By that logic our world would be a very dull place. Also many countries that have better internet than the US I think that's why Stadia is available in many countries... not just the US.
Glad to hear it. Also looking forward to see how it improves over the next year. If nothing else the Chromecast Ultra is a great little streaming device.
@Scottydog Destiny 2 isn't really a CoD type shooter. It's more like WoW with guns. It definitely has a different feel. I would recommend trying it with a mouse and keyboard on your PC instead. I hat... See more...
@Scottydog Destiny 2 isn't really a CoD type shooter. It's more like WoW with guns. It definitely has a different feel. I would recommend trying it with a mouse and keyboard on your PC instead. I hated it at first and didn't really get into it until playing it for a while with a mouse and keyboard. The game library will improve of course. The prices will drop, it's a new platform so prices are going to be a bit higher for a little while. That is always the cost of being an early adopter (Founder). You get to play with new tech earlier but you pay more for it.
@Anarchrist Do the games play well for you? Can you play them across multiple devices? What was it about Stadia that initially made you decide to purchase it? Does it accomplish that? New games wil... See more...
@Anarchrist Do the games play well for you? Can you play them across multiple devices? What was it about Stadia that initially made you decide to purchase it? Does it accomplish that? New games will obviously be added over time. No brand new platform has EVER launched with a large library of games. I think you were just expecting the impossible here. Is your Chromecast rebooting unexpectedly or bricked? It is intended to run hot but shouldn't crash endlessly or brick itself. Definitely request a replacement if it does. Mine runs hot playing for hours or even when idle but I haven't experienced any crashes/reboots/etc. Unfortunately all hardware has some failures that make it through testing. No one ever said that a controller on WiFi would be revolutionary just that it would help minimize latency. Are you experiencing poor performance? Lag? Compression? Spending a bit of time resolving any network issues will usually take care of it. I've been really happy with it so far. Will most likely be my primary gaming platform going forward. Definitely not going to miss buying hardware for gaming. Some improvements are needed, more games, controller WiFi on all devices, 4k on PC, etc. but I am patient and know the platform will improve at a steady clip. The single biggest reason to stick with Stadia is that it'll improve faster than other platforms. Just stop believing all the doomsayers wearing tinfoil hats. This isn't some side project for Google that they will dump when they get tired of it. They are heavily invested in Stadia and are in it for the long haul. The last time they put this much of an investment into a product/service we got Android... does it seem like they are going to abandon that? Businesses don't abandon successful products. So will Stadia be successful? My guess is that it will be. What I believe will happen is that people become so accustomed to trialing a game on Stadia after watching a trailer for it on YouTube that the other platforms will seem lacking in comparison. The ability to jump into a game immediately is really the killer feature that Stadia already has. The convenience it offers is unparalleled.
Have you tried it? It works quite well for most people. I've already played a couple dozen hours in Destiny 2 and FFXV with roughly a single instance of memorable lag. That's just as good if not bette... See more...
Have you tried it? It works quite well for most people. I've already played a couple dozen hours in Destiny 2 and FFXV with roughly a single instance of memorable lag. That's just as good if not better than playing on local hardware. Why are you so angry about it though? Did Stadia personally offend you in some manner?
They said that "Stadia" would support "up to" 4k 60fps at launch. Not that all games would be rendered at 4k 60fps. So, it does support it, the games just aren't being rendered at 4k 60fps due the tec... See more...
They said that "Stadia" would support "up to" 4k 60fps at launch. Not that all games would be rendered at 4k 60fps. So, it does support it, the games just aren't being rendered at 4k 60fps due the technical limitations of the hardware. Once devs have more time the learn the platform they should be able to get all their respective games running at 4k 60fps. Unfortunately, many people misunderstood this and had unrealistically high expectations for the initial games given that it is a brand new platform. New platforms always have some issues to work out.
@Turtle The titles aren't running at 4k 60fps because the devs need more time to learn and optimize their games for the platform. Not sure why they phrased it as the "developer's choice". Every new p... See more...
@Turtle The titles aren't running at 4k 60fps because the devs need more time to learn and optimize their games for the platform. Not sure why they phrased it as the "developer's choice". Every new platform has had moderate to severe performance issues until devs have a bit of time to get over the learning curve, fix bugs, etc. Like you figured, the performance will definitely improve with a bit more time. Though, they definitely could've been more straightforward/realistic about initial performance of the games, the difference between "supports up to 4k 60fps" and "everything is 4k 60fps" is far too subtle for most people to discern.
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@Mode Ignoring that there aren't enough games currently on Stadia for a full scheduled year of Pro games, I believe it definitely would be worse for people who bought games just before the list was r... See more...
@Mode Ignoring that there aren't enough games currently on Stadia for a full scheduled year of Pro games, I believe it definitely would be worse for people who bought games just before the list was released only to find out those games are going to be free later on. First, it disincentivizes anyone else from buying the game until its free, making any multi-player functionality that much harder to find others to play with. Second, assuming you're already past the refund time limit now you have up to 12 months to dwell upon and resent that you paid for something that others will get for free instead of it just happening and you getting over it. Third, it disincentivizes people from buying any games at all until they find out what will be on next year's list, I don't want the service to die so this is bad, it needs to make money to be viable. Fourth, for those that bought games, now instead of spreading the complaints out over a year, you're compressing them all into a single day/week, completely overwhelming customer service, and just degrading the general experience for all those using the service. Yes, obviously making your customers unhappy isn't a good business model. Do you think the intent of giving games to Pro members was to make them unhappy? Someone is always going to be unhappy and complain no matter what they do, question is which action is going to make more people happy vs unhappy? Yes, Stadia is a new service but again it also needs to be profitable and realistic. There's a reason other services use similar models, there's only so much you can give away before it becomes unprofitable. As the game library improves so will the free games and the less likely people will buy a game just before it's made available to Pro members. I've had this happen to me on a few other platforms, yes it kinda sucks, but you get over it and move on. Maybe they will find a solution that makes everybody happy and is still profitable but I am not going to hold my breath for perfection. So critiques of your ideas are only valid if a potential solution to the problem is also provided? I already said, I think a $5 credit on your account if you purchased a game in the last month would go a long way to appease people's complaints. Still needs to be profitable though, so maybe that amount is dependent on the amount of time played or timed owned. But I guess that isn't offering solution if its building upon something you had suggested... so sure, I'll humor you and attempt to solve this regardless of how futile it is. There's the option of only giving away games nobody has bought yet. I believe this is what the Epic store does every 2 weeks and then the games become available for purchase afterwards. I don't have numbers for people who actually buy the games after they've been free but I would imagine that it is significantly lower than services that have the games available for purchase before the games are free. Stadia also doesn't really have this option as developers need to spend time porting to the platform and there's no reason for them to port the game just to make it free. I am pretty sure the free games from Epic have already been on the PC for a while so there are no porting costs but I also have dozens of games from them that I'll never realistically play. I'll keep claiming them just because but I've kind of lost interest in the platform since the quality of the free games has just been so meh... people will complain about anything. They could completely change the business model they have, actually make it a Netflix for games and pay developers based on the amount of time users spend playing the games. But then they would have to raise the cost of a Pro subscription which would make lots of people unhappy, I suppose it could be a separate tier but then you'd still have people unhappy about games they bought that are then made free to Pro users, which is what we're trying to solve. You could stop making games free to Pro members and reduce the cost but the precedent has been set and that would really piss off lots of people, they'd claim a "bait and switch" even though the cost is being reduced to compensate. Publishers also likely wouldn't be on board with a Netflix model despite there being evidence, according to OnLive, they can make more money with this model because people will try games they normally wouldn't purchase. I could probably keep going but I think you get the point... it's impossible to make everybody happy but at least it seems like they're trying. I think that's all we can reasonably expect right now. It's a brand new service and from what I've seen they're working harder to make their customers happy than any other platform has at launch. I mean daily timestamped updates about the state of Stadia... does anyone else communicate even remotely this well? No that doesn't mean we should just be content with whatever they give us but let's try to be reasonable and not complain about free games...
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@Mode A 1 year free game release plan doesn't solve anything. It would actually make it worse for people that bought a game right before the list was released. You'd also then have people not buying ... See more...
@Mode A 1 year free game release plan doesn't solve anything. It would actually make it worse for people that bought a game right before the list was released. You'd also then have people not buying games for up to 12 months. That's not really a good business model if you're trying to make money. The service would die like that. I could support an automatic $5 credit if you had already purchased the game within the last month or so. But at the same time no other service works like that. If you buy a game on Xbox do you get a refund when in becomes able on Gamepads? Or PS+? Or Epic? Or a refund when a Steam game goes on sale? That's just the way sales works. You got to enjoy the product before the people who got it at a discount. It's the same as buying a movie only to see it released on Netflix or somewhere else shortly after.  
Google might be holding the disc but if the issue isn't with the disc, which it most likely isn't since the game is already running and streaming, then only Square can fix the software on the disc. I ... See more...
Google might be holding the disc but if the issue isn't with the disc, which it most likely isn't since the game is already running and streaming, then only Square can fix the software on the disc. I highly doubt Google even has access to the source code for the games.