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I am unaware of game developers being paid by any other console or pc provider to make games. There are contracts for games to be exclusive to consoles. but we as consumers\investors are the ones tha... See more...
I am unaware of game developers being paid by any other console or pc provider to make games. There are contracts for games to be exclusive to consoles. but we as consumers\investors are the ones that purchase\invest in games\studios and make it profitable for game development. IF google is offering anything for this that is kudos to them. All OS stores are price fixed at 30% you want to sell anything on IOS, Android, Steam? get ready to pony up 30% of your profit to pay them. Even for in game purchases. This is the only industry were price fixing has been acceptable. The government normally steps in and stops this. This is why Apple is in hot water at the moment about its Apple Store along with Google Play and Steam. From my understanding they are charging less than the price fixed industry standard. I am surprised google is not doing the same here as they are with Google Play. It is a store were people can buy/rent their products. This technically can be seen as another revenue stream for these game developers.  Yes google needs to make themselves relevant. The main question is at what cost they are willing to pay to do this. I am surprised they are willing to pay anything and are not just taking a % off the top of all game sales like all the other consoles and OS stores do. The main reason consoles sell at a loss is because no one would buy them when they can get a gaming PC for the same price if not less. They are forced to hit a price point because by the time the console is manufactured and set to sell to the public they are 2 iterations if not 10 behind the PC market. No one is going to pay top dollar for inferior technology.  Just look at the parts required to match an Xbox one S http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2016/07/building-pc-beats-xbox-one-s/#:~:text=With%201792%20SPs%20at%20970,of%20the%20Xbox%20One%20S.)&text=With%20two%20hyperthreaded%20cores%2C%20the,in%20the%20Xbox%20One%20S. I know my gaming computer was over $3,000.00. Hell the RTX2080TI was $1,700.00 alone. and it is already outdated! The new gaming consoles have been in development for years before they are brought to market.
Something that the developers have done to hurt Stadia is no cross platform play. Bungee Kicked Stadia right in the teeth when a popular game buys into the platform but does not allow cross platform.... See more...
Something that the developers have done to hurt Stadia is no cross platform play. Bungee Kicked Stadia right in the teeth when a popular game buys into the platform but does not allow cross platform. This hurt stadia because the servers felt empty. If all the multi player games would have supported this from the beginning stadia would also be in a better position. Yet again the old mighty dollar stepped in. It is more profit for the developer if they force you to buy the game on the different plat forms to play with your friends.  
@Classic-Rando But is that a google thing or is it Ubisoft? Does Ubisoft have contacts in place for the older games? Or is Ubisoft not willing to put the man power over to porting the games instead o... See more...
@Classic-Rando But is that a google thing or is it Ubisoft? Does Ubisoft have contacts in place for the older games? Or is Ubisoft not willing to put the man power over to porting the games instead of pushing out a new IPO. I don't think google would pay Ubisoft to hire another team to port the game over. I do think google would pay them a portion of sales or pay them for a rights contract to have the game free on their pro subscription.    Again it is the question who should we be yelling at? I say both google and Ubisoft. but that is me. 
@Thomas_ I agree. The hard part is these upcoming games have been in development for over 3 to 5 years. Stadia was not even in the picture when these games first started their development cycles. Sta... See more...
@Thomas_ I agree. The hard part is these upcoming games have been in development for over 3 to 5 years. Stadia was not even in the picture when these games first started their development cycles. Stadia is an after thought. Depending on the games development budget Stadia is an additional cost that the studios may not be willing to budget for. The down fall is some game studios would rather push the product as is make what they can on it and then look into Stadia if the game is a hit. 
Sorry for the double post... I selected to edit it.  @Classic-Rando I am in the same boat you are. I am the only one left of my friends that have stuck it out. I also agree with you if they waited a... See more...
Sorry for the double post... I selected to edit it.  @Classic-Rando I am in the same boat you are. I am the only one left of my friends that have stuck it out. I also agree with you if they waited a year they would have had more games. The hard part is most big companies don't like sharing what is going on behind the scene. We don't know if any of the big games are coming or are in development and we won't know until they are almost at the end of their coding cycle. I feel this is something that needs to change in the industry as a whole. Development needs to be more transparent to their communities with realistic goals. No more "this game is going to take a year to develop".  A development cycle for a game can be up to 10 years before its release form the start of coding. To port these games to Stadia's standards may take another year or 2 for triple A games. We may be seeing indie games more because they are smaller and take less time to code over to Stadia.
@Classic-Rando : don't get me wrong I understand the frustration. I am frustrated too. I am just saying it may take some time (more than a year or longer depending on coding for games to become avail... See more...
@Classic-Rando : don't get me wrong I understand the frustration. I am frustrated too. I am just saying it may take some time (more than a year or longer depending on coding for games to become available.)   Google has the infrastructure to make this work. It would have been cool with me if there was a crowd funded option. This way the developers could put up all their games into a library  and if enough people pre-order a game to pay for the port then it is ported over. Google could show their end of the support by putting some of the money up to help port the game OR you pay half the cost for the game and google pays the other half. It would show the community and the game developers there is interest in these games. It would also show what games people want to have access to on Stadia and have the games most wanted ported over.
Google has the infrastructure to make this work. It would have been cool with me if there was a crowd funded option. This way the developers could put up all their games into a library  and if enough... See more...
Google has the infrastructure to make this work. It would have been cool with me if there was a crowd funded option. This way the developers could put up all their games into a library  and if enough people pre-order a game to pay for the port then it is ported over. Google could show their end of the support by putting some of the money up to help port the game OR you pay half the cost for the game and google pays the other half. It would show the community and the game developers there is interest in these games. It would also show what games people want to have access to on Stadia and have the games most wanted ported over.
Sigh... Google is a large company yes and they do have money. Does that mean that all of its money is funneled to Staida unfortunately no. It is a publicly traded company that must answer to share ho... See more...
Sigh... Google is a large company yes and they do have money. Does that mean that all of its money is funneled to Staida unfortunately no. It is a publicly traded company that must answer to share holders. Make divvied ends and be profitable for its share holders. It is not a private company that can do what ever it wants with its money. Stadia is an off shoot of google and google would be its parent company. It has a budget it must follow or abide by set by its share holders and the people that invested into Stadia.  I guarantee they did plenty of research before even mentioning this platform to everyone. I also bet they reached out to all these game companies and said look at this cool offering we have. You know what happened they said that is cool but we don't have the budget to code a game that has been through its life cycle if we can't make a return profitable enough to recode it. Google can not as a company pay the game makers to port every game over and then turn around and give it to you for free. The model must sustain itself within its budget.  That is business 101. It surprises me how many people look at these companies and say they have tones of money give me free stuff. That is not the day and age we live in. Look at the pandemic the government and people are more worried about the all mighty dollar than their own lives. So there is no company out there that will loose money just to do so.    The game companies tested the waters. You want more Assassins creed yell at Ubisoft. Tell them it would be profitable for them to code older games and port them to Stadia and that there is a market for it. Yelling at Google notifies them that you re interested. I bet they track that and if there is enough of us saying we would buy the game they can show that to the game company and they would then code the game and port it over. We along with google can state that to these companies. But until these game companies know they are not tossing their dollars down the drain to code these games it will be an up hill battle. 
OK... everyone Stadia has nothing to due with the games coming late to Stadia! you are griping up the wrong tree. They do not create the games! you must go to the games dev team / publishers and ask ... See more...
OK... everyone Stadia has nothing to due with the games coming late to Stadia! you are griping up the wrong tree. They do not create the games! you must go to the games dev team / publishers and ask them why they are choosing to focus on PC/Consoles first and not Stadia! The game dev/publishers are the ones pushing games back for Stadia NOT GOOGLE!  please do some research and gripe at the correct people. Googles hands are tied. They can whine and cry and throw a huge fit at these game developers but in the end google has no say in the game development process unless it is within their own studio! You want these games on Stadia? Then we should be asking the developers to create the games for Stadia along with google. You have to show them that it is profitable for them to take the time to add Stadia into the creative process of creating the games! Yes the games have to be coded and designed to run on Stadia and it is different than a Console or Windows*PC.
It seems like a lot of you don't understand that Stadia is a PLATFORM. They have no access to triple A games unless that games development team and publisher ports the game over to their platform. Th... See more...
It seems like a lot of you don't understand that Stadia is a PLATFORM. They have no access to triple A games unless that games development team and publisher ports the game over to their platform. That is a very intensive process for the game developers due to Stadia running off of Linux, most games are created for Direct X and not Open GL which is a Linux standard. Have you ever wondered why you must hack a game / run the game on an simulated windows program within Linux  to play it? Because the games are not nativity created for it. Stadia has a huge up hill battle to get triple A games on their platform. They have to try and make deals with huge game companies that may not think it profitable to redesign the game for controller support and Linux. --If you want triple A games... Start telling these game companies you want the game on Stadia! They are the ones that need to Listen to their communities and consumers. They are the ones making the games for specific platforms!-- So seeing small Indie games is awesome, that means these indie companies took the time and resources to port the game over or made the game mainly with Stadia in mind. Stadia is going to take quite a while to get going. Due to they will have to create most of their own Triple A titles through their own game studio. Most large companies are after your money and not a quality game for Stadia. They will create a game and kicked it out on a single platform due to contacts with Sony/Microsoft X BOX or even Steam. Ever heard of Gran Turismo? Ever seen it released on anything other than a PlayStation? (NO and you never will as long as their contract stands with Sony.) The contract will stipulate how long that Game can be sold on that platform before it can be ported to another. OR the game creators will make a game for Steam, Xbox, OR PlayStation and not worry about Stadia due to it being on a different platform than the PC/Consoles. Some game companies just don't have the budget to create their game for PC, Xbox, PlayStation, and Stadia. People have to understand porting a game over to Stadia is not a click of a button and poof the game is there. They may have Triple A games coming on the horizon but who is to say a large game won't take a year or two before it is ready to be played on Stadia. This is due to the massive changes that may have to occur for the game to run smoothly on Stadia.  If you are impatient and are not liking the titles presented then don't pay for the pro sub. No one is forcing you to do so. Right now the main convenience of Stadia is being able to play games across multiple screens (If and it is a BIG if! you have an internet connection fast enough to do so.)