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@Maaseru Thanks for taking the time to read what I wrote and respond.  Good dialog is part of what makes a community great, so I appreciate it. Your first paragraph implies that you were under th... See more...
@Maaseru Thanks for taking the time to read what I wrote and respond.  Good dialog is part of what makes a community great, so I appreciate it. Your first paragraph implies that you were under the impression that Stadia was going to be a "Netflix" of games.  Apparently a fair amount of others were under this impression as well.  I can't find where this was ever stated and I do feel like their messaging on this specific topic has been clear since the beginning. (Specifically that you would have to buy games and that it would function like XBL/PS+ with requiring your membership to stay active to have active to the content for games provided as part of Pro. (Founder or not) but that games you purchased ARE playable if you drop down to base. I can definitely understand why this would come across as frustrating if that's the impression you were under.   For the record, I ALSO want 4k/60fps, and as I stated previously, I think we'll get there.  Also, to be clear, we're still not sure exactly why we're not getting 4k/60 outside of a statement about it being up to "developers choice".  I don't really buy that reasoning, but I do suspect we'll see things continue to improve. Having worked in data centers before, that's a big bonus that Google has with the platform architecture.  They can modify configs/upgrade hardware on the back-end at will. Your argument about being through the disappointment of early PSN and XBL and there being zero excuses for having any issues here is a fallacy of composition.  Even though those services struggled at first and you'd hope that there wouldn't be the same/similar issues here, doesn't mean that there won't be.  As far as the free games go, it's a matter of choice.  Would those have been my two choices to offer the community- no.  Am I unhappy with them - also no. Like a lot of PC gamers, I have a HUGE backlog of steam games I haven't gotten around to playing yet, much less a backlog of console games to play through as well.  I've probably got that version of Tomb Raider on PC, Xbox One X, and PS4, but haven't gotten around to playing it yet, so I'll enjoy it on Stadia.  Again, it's the same thing with XBL or PS+.  You're going to get games that you've already played or already have.   There's no way for them to please everyone. Hell, they went ahead and offered refunds out of policy because it was the right thing to do for the people that already purchased it since they didn't have enough time between it going on sale day 1 as part of the Black Friday deals and the announcement for December's games with Pro.  I would expect them to start publicizing the Pro games for the next month in advance going forward (OR allowing a choice between a number of titles, which IMHO would be a HUGE positive, assuming the choices are solid.) I disagree with you on the promise of portability not being there and so do a large number of others out there on Twitter, Reddit, etc.  Taking a CCU with me traveling is simple.  Taking a netbook/laptop with chrome on a trip to play through the browser is simple.  Playing on my phone (Pixel 3) is simple.  Lots of options that will continue to expand to iOS etc. and for me, everything has been flawless. I've had no issue on browser, CCU, or on my phone at all. I know that's not the case for everyone.  What Google is attempting is vastly complicated (streaming through chrome browser that could be configured with different add-ons, both system and network configurations, etc. IS difficult alone, not to mention varying internet speeds, data caps, and all of the other aspects they're supporting right now and what they will expand to in the future.)  so it's no surprise that there are potential issues that some users are having issues with. Thankfully the community has been rallying around to share info to try and sort out issues and help their community. We can both definitely agree that the "be grateful it is free" is a poor response for any of it. None of it's free. You paid to be a founder. Your opinion matters just like mine and just like anyone else who paid to be a founder/premiere edition. I also agree that there's tons of room for improvement - heck, I'm disappointed I can't stream to YouTube already directly from the service. It'll come in time, but it's one of the things I was most looking forward to feature wise. Google's first foray into Gaming definitely could've gone MUCH smoother at "launch", but I think we ARE seeing them take feedback and improve.  The better community communication from @GraceFromGoogle  the past two days is showing that firsthand.  I would hope that the next Stadia connect will have a road map and timeline, along with a bevy of new games.  The future remains to be seen, but I personally choose to believe that things will continue to improve and that Stadia is only going to get better with time.  Happy Holidays! ~Turtle    
@Maaseru Your expectations and reasons for purchasing the product are likely different from mine and very well may be different from lots of others. For me personally, the ability to take my gaming ... See more...
@Maaseru Your expectations and reasons for purchasing the product are likely different from mine and very well may be different from lots of others. For me personally, the ability to take my gaming and go, bounce back and forth between screens, and not have to travel with more than a controller and chromecast ultra/phone/or a device with a supportive chrome browser is what I wanted from the product.  Would I like for every game to be 4k? Absolutely! (I certainly have the internet connection with no data cap to support it!) Do I think we'll get there? Yeah, I do. Is it a deal breaker for me, right now? No. Neither are the choices for December's Pro games.  The library will continue to grow and expand. Much like I've felt with MS XBL and Sony's PS+, there are some months where I've been thrilled and others where I've been absolutely disappointed.  It's going to vary player to player.  For me, it's huge that I don't have to fight for the TV or be confined to my desk in my office to play.  I can switch screens at will, play on my phone, or in a chrome browser on almost any device in the house, regardless of the specs of the hardware itself.  When I travel in early December, I'll bring my CCU and my controller. No need to bring my gaming laptop or console.  Makes traveling a heck of a lot easier on me as a gamer for sure.  (As did the Nintendo Switch!) My response isn't fake and I'm not a "shill" for Google. I'm just an informed opinion with different immediate expectations of the product than you seem to have - and that's OK!  The difference of opinion is healthy for the product and service as a whole and I'm glad you're sharing yours.  Positive debate about what can get better IS helpful. I think we can both agree that more transparency in the Stadia teams communication strategy, outlining Pro games well in advance so that people can better plan purchases, and more regular Stadia Connects on a publicized regular schedule would be big steps in the right direction.   Thanks for sharing your opinion and I look forward to gaming with you on Stadia! ~ Turtle
Kudos to you @StadiaTeam and @GraceFromGoogle.  There are always going to be people who complain about anything and everything, especially those who don't understand how product launches go and don't... See more...
Kudos to you @StadiaTeam and @GraceFromGoogle.  There are always going to be people who complain about anything and everything, especially those who don't understand how product launches go and don't work in IT and don't understand the marketing, etc.   Was the launch handled the best it could've been - no. Was the communication the best it could've been - also no.  But, it's getting better, quickly.  It's obvious that Google is taking an "agile" approach and using iterative improvements for their processes and their product.  As someone who works in the field, I can definitely appreciate this, though I wish there would've been more communication to the fan/player base up front (transparency is always the right choice.) I'm happy that we're getting two games for Pro!  (While I don't think they're the best choices, I think they're decent choices.)  For those complaining that you bought it and it's included free next month, welcome to buying games online.  This is common with all of the Xbox Live/PS + memberships .  The communication will continue to be more consistent.  I am excited to see how things move forward, especially over the next few months.   (Also for those of you who care, I've been gaming since the 1980s and owned just about every major console/handheld and custom built multiple gaming PCs over the years.)   (Also, for any of you looking to get a refund for Tomb Raider - navigate your web browser to https://play.google.com/store/account/orderhistory and click the three dots on the right next to your Tomb Raider purchase. Click report a problem, select an option and then fill in the required fields and submit. I had purchase Tomb Raider, but hadn't played it yet, and received a refund approval within a minute of my submission) I look forward to gaming with all of you online! ~ Turtle