So I'm probably gonna get BLASTED by people I've made fun of but whatever, lol. This is totally hypothetical, because I'm NEVER going to cancel my subscription, and I'm not concerned at all about the possibility of losing $7.99, lol.
BUT... They gave us the base version of Metro Exodus, and the add-on can be bought and used with the claimed version for $7.99.
My question is... again, totally hypothetical cuz I'm never gonna cancel... but if SOMEONE did buy just an add on to a Pro claimed game, and then canceled their subscription... do they just lose whatever they paid for the add-on since they wouldn't be able to play the claimed version unless they added their subscription back?
Again... totally hypothetical! I think it is dumb that they gave us the base version, and I'm hoping it's a mistake like what happened with Farming Simulator when they gave us the base version and then fixed it to the Platinum Edition later.
But in case it's NOT a mistake, what happens if you buy add-ons to Pro games and then don't stay on your subscription?
Where's @GraceFromGoogle when we need her!!! I want answers!! ![]()
@Xevioso : Since the add-on requires the base game. If you did claim the base version and then cancel that subscription, you would no longer be in possession of the base game and the add-on would be unusable unless the base game was either purchased, or the subscription was made active once more.
@Xevioso : Since the add-on requires the base game. If you did claim the base version and then cancel that subscription, you would no longer be in possession of the base game and the add-on would be unusable unless the base game was either purchased, or the subscription was made active once more.
@Mad_Dog_Bravo This is why I think that when they offer a Pro game, it should always be the highest version of the game. The only exception should be if the higher version is strictly cosmetic. I don't know if the gold version of Metro is cosmetic or if there's additional gameplay. But the idea is that anything you actually spend money on should be accessible. So if you buy a game, you own it and can play it whenever. But if they give us a base version as a Pro title, and we buy the add on, you technically don't own anything, because you must be a subscriber to access the add-on.
But more simple than that, if you have users on a Pro subscription, and you offer Pro titles, your subscribers should be able to access all the gameplay of that title. Not just the base level gameplay.
@Xevioso : I'm in agreement with you on this one. However, technically we don't own anything physical or even digital for that matter. We are only either subscribing to a service or paying money for a license. There is no transfer of ownership or stuff like that from my understanding of the license agreement.
I guess with FS 19 the idea of giving the platinum edition could be that FS 20 was just about to ship if it hadn't already, so in the grand scheme of things we were being gifted an out of date game. ALthough not as out of date as FS 17 on Gamepass IIRC, but that's another can of worms that I won't open up...lol
With Metro Exodus, although a sequel has been announced it is way off in the distance as far as I can tell and so perhaps it isn't such a bad move to give folks the option of buying the add-on. I guess that by making it a Pro game for some duration the game will get some exposure that perhaps it wouldn't normally get, and that some of those gamers may actually spend a little extra on the add-on content.
I've played the first Metro years ago and absolutely loved it, then there was all the headache of the sequel and developer issues and stuff and I never really got back into it again. So now having Exodus as a claimed title it might wet my appetite once more and I'll give it another crack. I think I've got some of the other titles still on Steam and/or XBox so I should be able to get back into it later this year.
But back to the original thread, it is what it is unfortunately, and in this instance, the cost for the additional content actually isn't too much and if you did decide to bail out of the subscription but wanted to play Metro some more, there is still the option of buying the base game if you really must get playing it again. Although in that scenario personally I'd probably just buy a physical copy of the game...
I realize technically we don't own anything on Stadia, however I do believe they will stand by their word when they stated that they expect this to be a long term endeavor, but that if they should ever shut Stadia down, they would "make their users whole". I think what that means is if you buy games and the platform dies, they give you either codes to sites that skill PC versions of their games, or something physical copies or something. I don't think they mean money. So in that sense, what you buy you own, or at least you own the access to what you purchased, if you believe them which I do. But they probably can, but probably won't make you whole if you only bought the add on to a claimed game. So to me that's a problem. In the end it's one of my few gripes with Stadia. If it's a pro service then give us the best version of pro games. Even if that means going to a tiered service where for 9.99 you get the base version of pro games and for 12.99 you airways get the top available version, or any season passes, or something like that.
I was no aware of this and I have spent lot of money in addons, Google sold me something I can not use, I think the policy has to change, otherwise I will go back to steam and make sure I promote Steam with my friends on Stadia
Great thank you MAD for the official clarification ... I will never finish metro.
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@XeviosoMetro Exodus is a phenomenal game!
@Xevioso I played and beat Metro Exodus on Xbox One X. I must say I'm very impressed with how well it runs on Stadia. It's crisp as hell and beautiful. I never played the DLC though so I just purchased that and am awaiting the next DLC. Xbox One X even had some issues here and there running it. Stadia has zero from what I've seen. It's a very graphically demanding game.
For information, on xbox, if you buy a dlc on an offered game, you can always play the game when you unsubscribe.
Anyways if you buy a dlc separately it's often because you've beat the base game. It is also better that way for the publisher because they want dlc to be bought but nobody wants to buy the dlc that they may not access later on.
I think developers should be allowed to offer whatever version of their game they want and shouldn't be strong armed by Google to give up all their goods. One of the incentives to offer your game would be so then people will go and buy these add-ons. They're not making nearly as much money from just selling the base game but they're making something and while getting everything free for the consumer would probably make them happier at least they can try out the whole main game before deciding if they even care to expand their experience with this additional content.
Since we're on the subject of Pro games and DLC. Google, get Attack on Titan 2 on Pro. I have zero plans to ever buy that game because of that companies awful DLC practices.
@mcnichoj I actually agree with you, sort of, lol. What I mean is I like your answer because it makes me want to clarify my statement. I don't want Google to unilaterally decide to offer full gameplay and screw the developers. They must have some kind of agreement in order to offer the games as pro games to begin with. So I think they should pay the developers appropriately in order to always offer full gameplay to pro members. This was actually one of my original complaints about this service. It's still very early, but I feel like Google isn't making the kinds of deals with developers that will really make the Pro subscription FEEL like a Pro service. But you're right. I don't want Google to make demands that will hurt the developers financially.
@mcnichoj Is attack on titan 2 a good game? I'm slightly curious about it. What I'd like to be a pro game is the Dragon ball z game.
Well on Xbox if you buy a game, the disc version if you get rid of disc you can't play the DLC so will probably be same here, no access to game none to DLC.
Here's another hypothetical to your hypothetical: what would the situation be if a game we were given on Pro (i.e. Gylt) later has extra purchase-able content released? Pretty sure we'd be expected to pay for that later on, if you wanted it.
While I agree it would be nice to be given the highest bundle available of a game for Pro, in this case I'm fine with it since I know nothing about Metro and want to experience it before I would ever pay extra money for more more content. Which I might do anyway at some point since it's only a couple of bucks.
@Samas I guess my feeling is that Google obviously has to make deals with developers to even offer the games as pro titles. I wouldn't expect Google or the developers to make deals on possible future content, just on what's available at the time they're deciding how to make an agreement. The one exception, is that if there's a season pass currently available when they're making their deal, I think Google should try to compensate the developer so that the season pass is part of the deal even if there's still future content attached to the season pass.
For the record, this truly is a hypothetical. I'm very happy with Stadia, and if I like metro, I'm probably also going to buy the add-on. I'd just like to see Google make better deals with the developers, but I really am happy with the games they've provided so far.
Also for the record, I'm not one of these folks sitting around waiting for free content. I've bought 5 games already and will definitely buy more. And maybe Google is trying to make deals for full content, obviously I'm not in the room, lol. So I'm just saying I'd like to see the pro offerings be for all available content, but I also realize it just may not be possible.